{"id":26984,"date":"2023-03-14T08:56:50","date_gmt":"2023-03-14T07:56:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/batimedianews.com\/live\/?p=26984"},"modified":"2023-07-15T15:05:50","modified_gmt":"2023-07-15T13:05:50","slug":"le-refrigerant-naturel-r290-domine-a-ish-2023","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/batimedianews.com\/live\/index.php\/2023\/03\/14\/le-refrigerant-naturel-r290-domine-a-ish-2023\/","title":{"rendered":"Le r\u00e9frig\u00e9rant naturel R290 domine \u00e0 ISH 2023"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Surprise, m\u00eame les fabricants asiatiques embrassent le propane R290 comme fluide pour leurs pompes \u00e0 chaleur, depuis les machines domestiques jusqu\u2019aux groupes froids r\u00e9versible de plus de 1 MW.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" width=\"720\" height=\"540\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/32-ish2023.jpg?resize=720%2C540\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-26985\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/32-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=1024%2C768 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/32-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=600%2C450 600w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/32-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=768%2C576 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/32-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=1536%2C1152 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/32-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=2048%2C1536 2048w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/32-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=10%2C8 10w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/32-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=432%2C324 432w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/32-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=396%2C297 396w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/32-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=1120%2C840 1120w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/32-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=660%2C495 660w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/32-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=293%2C220 293w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/32-ish2023-scaled.jpg?w=1440 1440w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/32-ish2023-scaled.jpg?w=2160 2160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 91vw, (max-width: 900px) 600px, (max-width: 1060px) 50vw, (max-width: 1200px) 520px, (max-width: 1400px) 43vw, 600px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><figcaption>Pascal Poggi pour Batim\u00e9dia<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>L\u2019allemand Skadec ne produit que des groupes froid seul et r\u00e9versibles fonctionnant \u00e0 l\u2019aide de fluides naturels, dont le R290. Il ne poss\u00e8de pas de filiale en France, mais vend en Alsace, par exemple. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nous y sommes, ISH 2023 \u00e0 Francfort a ouvert lundi 13 mars au matin. Le salon n\u2019avait pas eu lieu physiquement depuis 2019. Cette ann\u00e9e, les visiteurs sont au rendez-vous et les exposants ont fait leur r\u00e9volution culturelle. Premier constat, les pompes \u00e0 chaleur dominent. Les principales marques de chauffage europ\u00e9ennes en proposent et quantit\u00e9 de marques asiatiques qu\u2019on ne connaissait pas exposent leurs nouvelles machines.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" width=\"720\" height=\"540\" src=\"https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/33-ish2023.jpg?resize=720%2C540\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-26986\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/33-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=1024%2C768 1024w, https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/33-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=600%2C450 600w, https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/33-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=768%2C576 768w, https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/33-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=1536%2C1152 1536w, https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/33-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=2048%2C1536 2048w, https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/33-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=10%2C8 10w, https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/33-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=432%2C324 432w, https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/33-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=396%2C297 396w, https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/33-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=1120%2C840 1120w, https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/33-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=660%2C495 660w, https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/33-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=293%2C220 293w, https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/33-ish2023-scaled.jpg?w=1440 1440w, https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/33-ish2023-scaled.jpg?w=2160 2160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 91vw, (max-width: 900px) 600px, (max-width: 1060px) 50vw, (max-width: 1200px) 520px, (max-width: 1400px) 43vw, 600px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><figcaption>Pascal Poggi pour Batim\u00e9dia<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Chez Swegon, le message est clair\u00a0: propane ou rien.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Des pompes \u00e0 chaleur air\/eau de forte puissance au R290<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Premi\u00e8re conf\u00e9rence de presse d\u2019importance \u00e0 ISH2023, celle du Groupe Panasonic. Elle portait avant tout sur l\u2019acquisition par Panasonic de l\u2019activit\u00e9 climatisation de Systemair, qui souhaite se recentrer sur la ventilation, la diffusion de chaleur et de froid pour le tertiaire, notamment gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 des plafonds chauffants-rafra\u00eechissants. Systemair a achet\u00e9 la marque Barcoil, bien connue en plafonds r\u00e9versible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Avec l\u2019achat de l\u2019activit\u00e9 climatisation de Systemair en France et en Italie, l\u2019usine de Tilli\u00e8res est tomb\u00e9e dans l\u2019escarcelle de Panasonic, ainsi que tout ce qu\u2019elle fabrique\u00a0: des roof-tops, des pompes \u00e0 chaleur et des chillers de forte puissance jusqu\u2019\u00e0 1400 kW, \u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" width=\"720\" height=\"540\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/37-ish2023.jpg?resize=720%2C540\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-26991\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/37-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=1024%2C768 1024w, https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/37-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=600%2C450 600w, https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/37-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=768%2C576 768w, https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/37-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=1536%2C1152 1536w, https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/37-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=2048%2C1536 2048w, https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/37-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=10%2C8 10w, https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/37-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=432%2C324 432w, https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/37-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=396%2C297 396w, https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/37-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=1120%2C840 1120w, https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/37-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=660%2C495 660w, https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/37-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=293%2C220 293w, https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/37-ish2023-scaled.jpg?w=1440 1440w, https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/37-ish2023-scaled.jpg?w=2160 2160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 91vw, (max-width: 900px) 600px, (max-width: 1060px) 50vw, (max-width: 1200px) 520px, (max-width: 1400px) 43vw, 600px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><figcaption>Pascal Poggi pour Batim\u00e9dia<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>M\u00eame si Panasonic n\u2019est dans les lieux que depuis le 1<sup>er<\/sup> mars, l\u2019entreprise ne perd pas de temps et montre \u00e0 ISH deux gammes de pompes \u00e0 chaleur air\/eau au R290 fabriqu\u00e9es \u00e0 Tilli\u00e8res \u2013 l\u2019ancienne usine d\u2019Airwell \u2013 et qui sont d\u00e9sormais brand\u00e9es Panasonic.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>La premi\u00e8re, \u00e0 gauche, une pompe \u00e0 chaleur de 35 kW et sera commercialis\u00e9e en Europe d\u00e8s le mois de Mai. La seconde, \u00e0 droite, est une gamme de pac au R290 de 50, 60, 70 et 80 kW qui sera commercialis\u00e9e seulement \u00e0 l\u2019automne. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" width=\"720\" height=\"541\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/36-ish2023.jpg?resize=720%2C541\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-26989\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/36-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=1024%2C769 1024w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/36-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=600%2C451 600w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/36-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=768%2C577 768w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/36-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=1536%2C1154 1536w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/36-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=2048%2C1538 2048w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/36-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=10%2C8 10w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/36-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=432%2C325 432w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/36-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=396%2C297 396w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/36-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=1120%2C841 1120w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/36-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=660%2C496 660w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/36-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=293%2C220 293w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/36-ish2023-scaled.jpg?w=1440 1440w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/36-ish2023-scaled.jpg?w=2160 2160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 91vw, (max-width: 900px) 600px, (max-width: 1060px) 50vw, (max-width: 1200px) 520px, (max-width: 1400px) 43vw, 600px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><figcaption>Pascal Poggi pour Batim\u00e9dia<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Panasonic montre \u00e9galement sa nouvelle gamme de pompes \u00e0 chaleur domestiques Aquarea L au R290 que nous avions d\u00e9j\u00e0 vue \u00e0 Interclima \u00e0 l\u2019automne dernier. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" width=\"720\" height=\"959\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/34-ish2023-2.jpg?resize=720%2C959\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-26992\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/34-ish2023-2-scaled.jpg?resize=769%2C1024 769w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/34-ish2023-2-scaled.jpg?resize=451%2C600 451w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/34-ish2023-2-scaled.jpg?resize=768%2C1022 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/34-ish2023-2-scaled.jpg?resize=1154%2C1536 1154w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/34-ish2023-2-scaled.jpg?resize=1538%2C2048 1538w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/34-ish2023-2-scaled.jpg?resize=8%2C10 8w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/34-ish2023-2-scaled.jpg?resize=432%2C575 432w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/34-ish2023-2-scaled.jpg?resize=396%2C527 396w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/34-ish2023-2-scaled.jpg?resize=1120%2C1491 1120w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/34-ish2023-2-scaled.jpg?resize=660%2C879 660w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/34-ish2023-2-scaled.jpg?resize=165%2C220 165w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/34-ish2023-2-scaled.jpg?w=1923 1923w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/34-ish2023-2-scaled.jpg?w=1440 1440w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 91vw, (max-width: 900px) 600px, (max-width: 1060px) 50vw, (max-width: 1200px) 520px, (max-width: 1400px) 43vw, 600px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><figcaption>Pascal Poggi pour Batim\u00e9dia<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Si l\u2019\u00e9volution vers des solutions eau glac\u00e9e se confirme, les fabricants italiens, comme Clivet, qui dominent le march\u00e9 europ\u00e9en des ventiloconvecteurs vont voir leurs ventes se d\u00e9velopper. Depuis 2016, Clivet est membre du groupe chinois Midea. Avec les deux autres chinois Gree et Haier, Midea est l\u2019un des trois premiers groupes mondiaux en climatisation. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>En marche vers l\u2019eau glac\u00e9e<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Panasonic qui cro\u00eet \u00e9norm\u00e9ment au d\u00e9veloppement des pompes \u00e0 chaleur double la capacit\u00e9 de son usine en R\u00e9publique Tch\u00e8que et celle de son usine malaisienne pour atteindre, globalement dans le monde, une capacit\u00e9 de production annuelle de pompes \u00e0 chaleur domestiques de 1 million d\u2019unit\u00e9s.<br>Mais, dans le m\u00eame souffle, Panasonic annonce \u00e9voluer vers des solutions \u00ab\u00a0hydronic\u00a0\u00bb, autrement dit vers des syst\u00e8mes \u00e0 eau glac\u00e9e pour remplacer \u00e0 terme ses solutions \u00e0 d\u00e9tente directe\u00a0: multisplits et autres DRV (D\u00e9bit de R\u00e9frig\u00e9rant Variable). Ils ne disent pas DRV d\u2019ailleurs, mais VRF pour Variable Refrigerant Flow. Ce sont ces grands syst\u00e8mes de climatisation centralis\u00e9s d\u00e9ploy\u00e9s en bureaux ou en h\u00f4tellerie\u00a0: une ou plusieurs unit\u00e9s ext\u00e9rieures alimentent en d\u00e9tente directe parfois jusqu\u2019\u00e0 plusieurs centaines d\u2019unit\u00e9 int\u00e9rieures. Les longueurs de canalisation qui contiennent du r\u00e9frig\u00e9rants et traversent le b\u00e2timent se comptent en kilom\u00e8tres.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" width=\"720\" height=\"540\" src=\"https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/38-ish2023.jpg?resize=720%2C540\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-26993\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/38-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=1024%2C768 1024w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/38-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=600%2C450 600w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/38-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=768%2C576 768w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/38-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=1536%2C1152 1536w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/38-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=2048%2C1536 2048w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/38-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=10%2C8 10w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/38-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=432%2C324 432w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/38-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=396%2C297 396w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/38-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=1120%2C840 1120w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/38-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=660%2C495 660w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/38-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=293%2C220 293w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/38-ish2023-scaled.jpg?w=1440 1440w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/38-ish2023-scaled.jpg?w=2160 2160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 91vw, (max-width: 900px) 600px, (max-width: 1060px) 50vw, (max-width: 1200px) 520px, (max-width: 1400px) 43vw, 600px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><figcaption>Pascal Poggi pour Batim\u00e9dia<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Si, comme l\u2019esquisse la r\u00e9vision du R\u00e8glement F-Gaz, les fluides \u00e0 GWP (Global Warming Power ou contribution \u00e0 l\u2019effet de serre) sup\u00e9rieur \u00e0 150 disparaissent d\u2019ici quelques ann\u00e9es, il n\u2019existe pas de fluide appropri\u00e9 pour les remplacer. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" width=\"720\" height=\"540\" src=\"https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/39-ish2023.jpg?resize=720%2C540\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-26994\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/39-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=1024%2C768 1024w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/39-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=600%2C450 600w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/39-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=768%2C576 768w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/39-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=1536%2C1152 1536w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/39-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=2048%2C1536 2048w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/39-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=10%2C8 10w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/39-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=432%2C324 432w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/39-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=396%2C297 396w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/39-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=1120%2C840 1120w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/39-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=660%2C495 660w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/39-ish2023-scaled.jpg?resize=293%2C220 293w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/39-ish2023-scaled.jpg?w=1440 1440w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/39-ish2023-scaled.jpg?w=2160 2160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 91vw, (max-width: 900px) 600px, (max-width: 1060px) 50vw, (max-width: 1200px) 520px, (max-width: 1400px) 43vw, 600px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><figcaption>Pascal Poggi pour Batim\u00e9dia<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Le R290 fonctionnerait parfaitement dans des syst\u00e8mes \u00e0 d\u00e9tente directe, du point de vue technique, mais il n\u2019est pas concevable \u2013 au regard des contraintes d\u2019installation \u2013 de transporter des dizaines de kilogrammes de propane dans des kilom\u00e8tres de canalisation dans un b\u00e2timent de bureaux, par exemple. La solution disponible, \u00e9prouv\u00e9e et connue depuis un si\u00e8cle environ, c\u2019est l\u2019eau glac\u00e9e&nbsp;: un groupe produit de l\u2019eau chaude ou de l\u2019eau entre 7 et 12\u00b0C selon la saison, des canalisations distribuent l\u2019eau jusqu\u2019\u00e0 des poutres froides, \u00e0 des plafonds r\u00e9versibles, \u00e0 des ventiloconvecteurs, \u2026 Plusieurs fabricants asiatiques, dont Panasonic, mais aussi Mitsubishi Electric ont depuis quelques ann\u00e9es fait l\u2019acquisition de marques italiennes connues dans le monde de l\u2019eau glac\u00e9e, pr\u00e9cis\u00e9ment pour se pr\u00e9parer \u00e0 cette \u00e9ch\u00e9ance.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>En laissant tra\u00eener nos oreilles<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A ISH, dans les all\u00e9es, sur les stands, tout le monde parle. Nous avons, par exemple, appris que le su\u00e9dois Nibe, connu pour ses pompes \u00e0 chaleur eau\/eau haute temp\u00e9rature, a fait une offre pour acheter la totalit\u00e9 ou au moins la majorit\u00e9 de Fujitsu General, l\u2019un des principaux industriels japonais en thermodynamique. Il semble que le groupe Fujitsu veuille se recentrer sur ses activit\u00e9s \u00e9lectroniques. Depuis quelques ann\u00e9es, Nibe a proc\u00e9d\u00e9 \u00e0 plusieurs acquisitions, dont celle de Rhoss en 2019, qui comme son nom ne l\u2019indique pas, est un sp\u00e9cialiste italien des groupes froids et groupes froids r\u00e9versibles. Rhoss a notamment \u00e9t\u00e9 pionnier de la technologie des groupes \u00ab\u00a04 tubes\u00a0\u00bb qui permettent d\u2019exploiter simultan\u00e9ment la chaleur et le froid produits par le groupe thermodynamique.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" width=\"720\" height=\"540\" src=\"https:\/\/i1.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/35-ish2023-1.jpg?resize=720%2C540\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-26995\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/35-ish2023-1-scaled.jpg?resize=1024%2C768 1024w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/35-ish2023-1-scaled.jpg?resize=600%2C450 600w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/35-ish2023-1-scaled.jpg?resize=768%2C576 768w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/35-ish2023-1-scaled.jpg?resize=1536%2C1152 1536w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/35-ish2023-1-scaled.jpg?resize=2048%2C1536 2048w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/35-ish2023-1-scaled.jpg?resize=10%2C8 10w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/35-ish2023-1-scaled.jpg?resize=432%2C324 432w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/35-ish2023-1-scaled.jpg?resize=396%2C297 396w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/35-ish2023-1-scaled.jpg?resize=1120%2C840 1120w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/35-ish2023-1-scaled.jpg?resize=660%2C495 660w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/35-ish2023-1-scaled.jpg?resize=293%2C220 293w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/35-ish2023-1-scaled.jpg?w=1440 1440w, https:\/\/i2.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/35-ish2023-1-scaled.jpg?w=2160 2160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 91vw, (max-width: 900px) 600px, (max-width: 1060px) 50vw, (max-width: 1200px) 520px, (max-width: 1400px) 43vw, 600px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><figcaption>Pascal Poggi pour Batim\u00e9dia<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>A ISH, Rhoss pr\u00e9sente des groupes froids \u00e0 condensation par air jusqu\u2019\u00e0 1700 kW. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Selon Rhoss, qui se pr\u00e9sente d\u00e9sormais avec la signature \u00ab&nbsp;Nibe Group Member&nbsp;\u00bb, l\u2019arriv\u00e9e de Nibe a permis de nouveaux investissements et donn\u00e9 une nouvelle impulsion \u00e0 l\u2019entreprise. Pourtant, Rhoss fait de la r\u00e9sistance en ce qui concerne les fluides. Son offre \u00e0 ISH repose encore beaucoup sur du R410, avec un petit nombre de machines utilisant le R32 en petite puissance jusqu\u2019\u00e0 15 kW et le R454B jusqu\u2019\u00e0 900 kW. Au-del\u00e0, les machines Rhoss sont m\u00eame encore propos\u00e9es au R134. Seule la gamme TurboPowerEco de 323 \u00e0 948 kW, \u00e9quip\u00e9e de compresseurs \u00e0 l\u00e9vitation magn\u00e9tique, fait appel au HFO1234ze. En France, Nibe est propri\u00e9taire de Technibel depuis 2014. Nibe a \u00e9galement acquis Waterkotte en Allemagne en 2020. En 2022, Nibe a achet\u00e9 l\u2019italien Argoclima, lui-aussi, sp\u00e9cialiste des groupes froids de grosse puissance.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Fujitsu General, cependant, est plut\u00f4t connu pour ses solutions de d\u00e9tente directe. En France, Fujitsu General, avec ses marques Fujitsu et General, est exclusivement distribu\u00e9 par le Groupe Atlantic. En Allemagne, il est exclusivement distribu\u00e9 par Swegon. Nous n\u2019avons pas encore recueilli l\u2019avis d\u2019Atlantic, mais les allemands de Swegon s\u2019alarment du fait que Nibe \u2013 l\u2019un de leurs principaux concurrents dans les pompes \u00e0 chaleur \u2013 pourrait devenir leur fournisseur.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mardi, deuxi\u00e8me jour du salon, nous irons voir Daikin, Nibe, Viessmann, Vaillant et le groupe Bosch.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Surprise, m\u00eame les fabricants asiatiques embrassent le propane R290 comme fluide pour leurs pompes \u00e0 chaleur, depuis les machines domestiques jusqu\u2019aux groupes froids r\u00e9versible de plus de 1 MW. L\u2019allemand Skadec ne produit que des groupes froid seul et r\u00e9versibles fonctionnant \u00e0 l\u2019aide de fluides naturels, dont le R290. Il ne poss\u00e8de pas de filiale [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":352,"featured_media":26998,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"spay_email":""},"categories":[2283,2282],"tags":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/batimedianews.com\/live\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/03\/ish2.jpeg?fit=1200%2C1200","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":26865,"url":"http:\/\/batimedianews.com\/live\/index.php\/2023\/03\/11\/le-salon-ish-2023-a-francfort-doit-confirmer-lenorme-developpement-des-pompes-a-chaleur\/","url_meta":{"origin":26984,"position":0},"title":"Le salon ISH 2023 \u00e0 Francfort doit confirmer l\u2019\u00e9norme d\u00e9veloppement des pompes \u00e0 chaleur","date":"11 mars 2023","format":false,"excerpt":"La derni\u00e8re \u00e9dition d\u2019ISH date de 2019. 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Elle a appartenu \u00e0 Airwell, puis \u00e0 Systemair et d\u00e9sormais \u00e0 Panasonic qui est en train de la r\u00e9\u00e9quiper pour fabriquer une nouvelle gamme de pompes \u00e0 chaleur air\/eau domestique au R290. Panasonic fabrique des pompes \u00e0 chaleur en France. 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